I have seen questions as to what potential penalties the university faces if Herb Pope plays but is eventually ruled ineligible. Here they are from the NCAA manual.
If a student-athlete who is ineligible under the terms of the constitution, bylaws or other legislation of the Association
is permitted to participate in intercollegiate competition contrary to such NCAA legislation but in accordance
with the terms of a court restraining order or injunction operative against the institution attended by such
student-athlete or against the Association, or both, and said injunction is voluntarily vacated, stayed or reversed
or it is finally determined by the courts that injunctive relief is not or was not justified, the Management Council
may take any one or more of the following actions against such institution in the interest of restitution and fairness
to competing institutions
• “Require that individual records and performances achieved during participation by such ineligible studentathlete shall be vacated or stricken;
• Require that team records and performances achieved during participation by such ineligible student-athlete
shall be vacated or stricken;
• Require that team victories achieved during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be abrogated
and the games or events forfeited to the opposing institutions;
• Require that individual awards earned during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be returned
to the Association, the sponsor or the competing institution supplying same;
• Require that team awards earned during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be returned to
the Association, the sponsor or the competing institution supplying same;
•Determine that the institution is ineligible for one or more NCAA championships in the sports and in the
seasons in which such ineligible student-athlete participated;
•Determine that the institution is ineligible for invitational and postseason meets and tournaments in the
sports and in the seasons in which such ineligible student-athlete participated;
•Require that the institution shall remit to the NCAA the institution’s share of television receipts (other than
the portion shared with other conference members) for appearing on any live television series or program if
such ineligible student-athlete participates in the contest(s) selected for such telecast, or if the Management
Council concludes that the institution would not have been selected for such telecast but for the participation
of such ineligible student-athlete during the season of the telecast; any such funds thus remitted shall be
devoted to the NCAA postgraduate scholarship program; and
•Require that the institution that has been represented in an NCAA championship by such a student-athlete
shall be assessed a financial penalty as determined by the Committee on Infractions.”
JG
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As much as I would like to see Pope play, I think every Aggie fan wants this situation to be handed correctly.
WAC play is approaching and in order for the Aggies to repeat they must win on the road, DEFEND the 3-point shot, and make 75% of their freethrows.
What do you all think?
I agree, we can't jump the gun with Pope. It would be unfair to the rest of the team.
Evl, I agree with your first two points on how to approach conference play. However, we only shot 64.5% from the charity stripe during conference play last year (65.7% overall). If we could bump that number up even just a couple of percentage points we should be good to dance.
75% from the line would be great, but unlikely considering we are only 62% for the year. Terrible, but at least the Menzies haters can't say Reggie did a much better job. :P
um well what I am still missing is when the NCAA was scheduled to rule on his case anyway. The JY ruling came a week or two ago but isnt the NCAA still supposed to rule on Pope too..? forget about the injunction stuff. Couldnt this whole thing just be leverage for the NCAA to hurry up and clear him anyway based on the sketchy Alippiqua HS class in question?
Sun news guys.. props on some of the recent articles and editorial piece (long overdue!) but keep turning over some rocks here. What are prior NCAA examples of this happening and what happened to the schools?
I say you let him play and beg forgiveness later. The season is already tarnished and we arent a tournament team without him.
Can't risk Pope playing, especially in conference play. But I still find it bizarre that the NCAA won't make a decision. Freakin make a final decision one way or the other!! If I was a high ranking NM politician, I'd do whatever I could to put pressure on the NCAA - not to decide in NMSU's favor, but to make a decision. Enough!
As for an Aggie repeat as WAC champs, evl and david make good points. I would also add turnovers to the list. We were bad last year, and are still bad this year despite playing what appears to be a slower game. Last year we scored a lot of points, which made our turnovers hurtful but tolerable. This year, our offensive scoring is down yet the turnovers are not. That comes down to coaching, and as most of you know I'm not a fan of Marvin Menso. But I'm not a "hater" david, just a critic. Menso seems like a nice guy, but the talented team he inherited has underachieved to date. That's squarely on the HC. So the facts suggest Menso is a rookie HC whose talented team is underachieving - nothing more, nothing less. He has an entire WAC season to prove himself, clearly the easier part of NMSU's schedule. But it won't be a cake walk. After watching Nevada play at #1 ranked North Carolina the 1st half, I'm not holding my breath for an Aggie repeat, especially if Passos is done for the season.
-Aggie Glare
I don't like the courts getting involved in the NCAA rulings. However, I hope that this action makes the NCAA get the ball rolling and make a ruling so that the coaching staff doesn't have to make that decision.
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